Blade Runner International Cut Regrade (Criterion Collection Laserdisc)

[PDB]

So I've been thinking about a "sequel" to this project and regrading the dc cut to the warner laserdisc. The ld also looks different to the bds but a little closer then the criterion laserdisc.

What came up in the previous project was the possibility of doing a music only track. Didn't have the space on it for the last project but would for this.

What's the best soundtrack to use? One that is not re-orchestrated.

[jonno]

I'm a big fan of the EMS Recombination edition - it's very clean and very comprehensive.

[PDB]

Thanks Jonno!

[Clutchins]

Would you make a Isolated Score for both the DC and the International Cut?

[PDB]

It would be the DC for right now. Not sure if its feasible since the CD's recording could have slightly different timing. I might try with Road Warrior first.

[captainsolo]

A regraded to DC version would be amazing. Come to think of it if the IC violence was put back that'd be my definitive BR probably.

[PDB]

So refresh my memory. The DC was suppose to have the violence (the eye gough, the longer Priss death, the longer nail part) from the IC but they couldn't find it in time for the release date. Correct?

I normally wouldn't fan cut the DC but if that's the case I have no problem with adding the footage.

BTW the LD cap that Jonno was nice enough to do for me is pretty damn close to the Criterion laserdisc with it being perhaps less saturated. The funny thing is that it has the different colors that the Criterion (and Embassy) does for some shots. The day shots approaching Tyrell, the different color room for Priss, etc. Its odd that these 2 LD match up pretty well in conflict to the official BDs.

Still I think the DC LD has enough interesting differences and my technique has changed enough that a project follow up would be warranted.

[Koopa Luath]

Speaking of isolated scores, and I apologize if this is a little late, would it be possible to rescore a track that already has dialogue in it? Because I was hoping to do it for one of my own projects.

[TServo2049]

I like the idea of a DC with the IC violence too.

[captainsolo]

So refresh my memory. The DC was suppose to have the violence (the eye gough, the longer Priss death, the longer nail part) from the IC but they couldn't find it in time for the release date. Correct?

I normally wouldn't fan cut the DC but if that's the case I have no problem with adding the footage.

BTW the LD cap that Jonno was nice enough to do for me is pretty damn close to the Criterion laserdisc with it being perhaps less saturated. The funny thing is that is has the different colors that the Criterion (and Embassy) does. The day shots approaching Tyrell, the different color room for Priss, etc. Its odd that these 2 LD match up pretty well in conflict to the official BDs.

Still I think the DC LD has enough interesting differences and my technique has changed enough that a project follow up would be warranted.

Yay!!

Essentially what I was able to figure out is that after the Arclight screenings of the workprint in 1991, the original project was begun but had to work against the guarantors whilst pleasing the studio and trying to work with Ridley who was tied up with Thelma & Louise and 1492. After preparing and negotiating suddenly the studio wanted a "original version" released to theaters asap for 1991/1992, so this left little to no time and kept Ridley from being majorly involved.
So the project leader (I always forget the guy's name) had no choice but to take the best available source and this turned out to be the US theatrical negative without the IC violence. It resulted in a beautiful and fully accurate release without the happy ending and must have used the original stems to simply remove the narration as the design and fidelity is similar if not slightly better than the original. But it was intended to catalog more materials worldwide and be definitive.
The thing was so rushed the end title card for the DC is literally stuck on the end and hangs slightly sideways off kilter.


I still wonder what the source for the archival disc was. It's obviously rather flat looking and was a single scan conformed to the three different versions with only the happy ending needing to come from somewhere else. My guess is that there was an HD master struck for the 2006 last issue DC DVD before the 2007 briefcase, and this new scan was used to create the archival disc.

It would be lovely to see the violence put into the DC. I think that would be the definitive release because it keeps everything 1982 oriented with correct color timing and sound without any manipulation. Once you start seeing the revisionism of the FC it becomes difficult to see it without thinking they should have been a little more hands off.


BR should have been a day one 4K release along with LoA from Sony...but nooooooo. BR 2019 (please don't suck, please don't suck, it will probably be terrible) should spur a new release but knowing WB we will see yet more repackages most likely.
A 4K scan of the DC with the violence restored and 35mm+70mm audio would blow away the FC.