Posts: 7,151
Threads: 601
Joined: 2015 Jan
Thanks: 1081
Given 1499 thank(s) in 969 post(s)
Country: 
Posts: 3,370
Threads: 179
Joined: 2015 Jan
Thanks: 1658
Given 1076 thank(s) in 539 post(s)
Country: 
Thanks spoRv, not bad at all, i really do wanna see an open matte version project happen.
Posts: 2,289
Threads: 39
Joined: 2015 Jan
Thanks: 177
Given 193 thank(s) in 134 post(s)
2015-05-20, 02:12 AM
(This post was last modified: 2015-05-20, 02:40 AM by jerryshadoe.)
Posts: 5,153
Threads: 182
Joined: 2015 Jan
Thanks: 3570
Given 3252 thank(s) in 1367 post(s)
Country:
Where is the non-logo'd open matte version from? Mine is from Cinemax like the Abyss. I'm curious to see if my version has the drop-out also (I assume it does). What is the time frame on the drop-out?
I'm still all for the open matte over the oar.
Posts: 2,810
Threads: 50
Joined: 2015 Jan
Thanks: 1882
Given 1013 thank(s) in 650 post(s)
2015-05-20, 08:56 AM
(This post was last modified: 2015-05-20, 09:00 AM by Stamper.)
I have a logo free old 720p open matte version with no dropout.
Tell me if you want me to upload it to you somewhere, so that you can pick and repair any missing frames in the new one.
In the jets picture you posted, the right corner isn't a drop out it's the flames from another jet engine next to it.
Posts: 2,289
Threads: 39
Joined: 2015 Jan
Thanks: 177
Given 193 thank(s) in 134 post(s)
2015-05-20, 09:45 AM
(This post was last modified: 2015-05-20, 09:45 AM by jerryshadoe.)
The "drop-out" that I was referring to in that screenshot is not the flames but the black "spot" in the white smoke-trail (next to the jet wing, also towards right-bottom corner) that appears to have been DNR'ed for the OAR version.
Not sure what Andrea was referring to though...
Posts: 7,151
Threads: 601
Joined: 2015 Jan
Thanks: 1081
Given 1499 thank(s) in 969 post(s)
Country:
Posts: 2,289
Threads: 39
Joined: 2015 Jan
Thanks: 177
Given 193 thank(s) in 134 post(s)
Since Stamper wrote that the image doesn't contain a drop-out, but that those are flames (when Andrea was referring to that "spot"/"slime"/"splotch") whether his 720p open-matte copy might be sourced from the same 1080 copy that you already have.
Also, I know how Andrea likes to layer different sources to "average" them out and get better quality, which is why I suggested the "other" 1080 HDTV copy (the Russian one with the logo) If the 720p copy that Stamper has is sourced from the 1080, then it would contain the same "damaged"/missing frames, which could possibly be salvaged from the Russian HDTV source. Also, wouldn't it be better to use a 1080 source versus an upscaled 720p source?
Posts: 7,151
Threads: 601
Joined: 2015 Jan
Thanks: 1081
Given 1499 thank(s) in 969 post(s)
Country:
We must find out if the 720p is a simple downconversion, or an original HDTV recording, using the same master; in the first case, it should contain the same corrupted frames, so it will be useless; in the second case, it will be useful to recover those corrupted/missing frames.
About using two 1080 versions; not a bad idea, but as you can see, the 1080 version with logo has less details than the 1080 without logo - that probably is sourced from Cinemax, as PDB wrote before, but I'm not sure about that... so, using that will probably wipe out some noise, but also reduce the details... and consider also that it should be resized to align spatially, losing even more detail...
Using an upscaled 720p usually will not improve the quality, but... (there is always a "but", you know...)
If the 720p is a direct downconversion made by the studio/broadcast/whoever, using pro level software/hardware, it *could* be, in theory, possible, using Super Resolution, to squeeze out more details than using a "simple" resize filter; given that, it's difficult to think that even a 720p -> SR upscaled to 1080p will contain more details than the 1080p version, but I'm still curious to test it, nevertheless!
Posts: 2,289
Threads: 39
Joined: 2015 Jan
Thanks: 177
Given 193 thank(s) in 134 post(s)
|
